[owncloud-devel] Paid apps

Michael Grosser owncloud at seetheprogress.net
Mon May 5 09:01:10 GMT 2014

There doesn't need to be a need for closed source. Paid apps can be
possible with open source and we don't need to go back huge steps,
just to satisfy some proprietary software company. Let it be open
source (Free Software definition) and make them paid in the app store.

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday 25 April 2014 13:42:12 Bjoern Schiessle wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> On 25/04/14 13:04, Michael Grosser wrote:
>> > As long as the apps are opensource (free software definition) efforts
>> > I would be ok with it. But closed source and non free software in the
>> > app store seems wrong in my eyes. I don't mind supporting great
>> > software, but I want to be free in using them.
>> actually it is not possible to distribute proprietary apps. ownCloud is
>> licensed under AGPLv3 and every app can be seen as a derivative work and
>> therefore needs to be licensed under a AGPLv3 compatible license.
> I am wondering if Inc, having the copyright to at least the core, would be
> able to grant an exception to the AGPL in this regard. I'm no huge fan of
> proprietary software, but perhaps having the ability to have proprietary apps
> (for a fee!) for ownCloud could help us in our world domination plans; and
> the fee could be used to further development, of course.
> Finding the answer to this question will require lawyering and, if it is
> possible, a conversation with Inc to see if this is something they can/want
> to handle/get into.
> Is it worth it? I mean, even if it IS possible, do we actually want this? And
> if we do, do we want to put in the effort to make it possible?
> I am inclined to say 'no' until there seems to be a real need/demand for (and
> willingness to pay for!) closed apps.
>> Regarding the idea about making it possible to pay for the apps. I think
>> this would be really great, thanks Jan for bringing this up. It is
>> always good to provide easy ways to pay for Free Software. But I don't
>> know how this could be implemented from a technical and organizational
>> point of view. I could imagine, that it would generate quite some
>> overhead to provide this option and to manage all the payments. Does
>> someone already has experience with such systems. What would be needed
>> to make it possible to pay for apps at apps.owncloud.org?
> I guess adding a flattr button or donate button going to paypal won't be too
> hard, but as soon as you start talking about actually handling money - that
> is a very painful thing for sure. Small payments (anything below USD 20) are
> very hard to handle.
>> cheers,
>> Björn
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