[owncloud-devel] Devel Digest, Vol 23, Issue 2

Tamer Tulimat loveriver7 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 7 07:04:54 GMT 2015


ok.. is there a  paid service for such personal requests?

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:34 PM, <devel-request at owncloud.org> wrote:

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>    1. Re:  Using ownCloud APIs in iOS app (Jos Poortvliet)
>    2. Re:  Using ownCloud APIs in iOS app (Jos Poortvliet)
>    3.  How to get Owncloud contacts from diff database? (Tamer Tulimat)
>    4.  app developer documentation (Jos Poortvliet)
>    5. Re:  How to get Owncloud contacts from diff       database?
>       (Jos Poortvliet)
>    6. Re:  [testpilots] owncloud-client Ubuntu 14.04    package
>       corrupted (Jos Poortvliet)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 16:01:03 +0100
> From: Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet at gmail.com>
> To: devel at owncloud.org
> Subject: Re: [owncloud-devel] Using ownCloud APIs in iOS app
> Message-ID: <3113007.oCCYAc8idv at jos-desktop>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> On Monday 02 November 2015 12:10:40 Charles Parnot wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Sorry for the newbie question. I posted it on the forum, but someone
> > recommended I posted it on this mailing list instead:
> > https://forum.owncloud.org/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=31273&p=100360#p100360
> >
> > My apologies if this is not the right place.
> >
> >
> > I'd like to add support for various sync services in our iOS app,
> including
> > Dropbox, Google Drive, etc. and maybe ownCloud (one user was interested).
> > ownCloud looks like a very nice implementation of file syncing that
> should
> > be useful in many situations where the user want to know where their data
> > is. However, I am trying to understand the licensing issues, and the FAQs
> > are a bit confusing in that regard, so my apologies for the dumb
> > questions.
> > The FAQs say:
> > > Can I write closed source or proprietary apps for ownCloud?
> > > Yes, but following the requirements of the under the AGPLv3, these can
> be
> > > distributed or made available to users outside of your household or
> > > organization only under the ownCloud Enterprise Edition, which supports
> > > integration with proprietary technologies. Contact ownCloud, Inc. for
> > > details.
> > Since the iOS app would only be using the APIs, and not any code from
> > ownCloud, I don't understand how the AGPL would apply (and the grammar is
> > a bit weird in the above sentence, adding to my confusion). I assume AGPL
> > does not apply for an iOS app using the APIs and you are talking about
> > other types of apps, but I am a bit confused (yes, I use this word a
> lot!)
> > and I want to make sure I don't get myself in trouble if I start doing
> > anything ownCloud-related.
>
> You are correct, the FAQ item was about ownCloud Apps - as in SERVER apps,
> those written in PHP and part of ownCloud. You write a third party app and
> want to use our public, external API's - those are fair game and certainly
> not subject to the (a)GPL.
>
> > Also, I noticed the iOS library is MIT, but the iOS app is GPL. It's too
> > bad about the latter, because it probably contains a lot of code that
> > would be useful for people like me that want to add support for ownCloud
> > in an iOS app. Maybe there is code with another example app that could be
> > useful to have support added quickly for maintaining one folder in sync
> > with the local filesystem on iOS? To be fair, even Dropbox does not have
> > any code like this, but I was hoping for that one user that ownCloud
> > support could be added quickly... Sorry I am all whining and very
> > demanding
>
> Don't be sorry ;-)
>
> Yeah, the app is GPL, the library MIT. If there is specific iOS app code
> you
> think is generally useful, we could perhaps see if it is worth moving it to
> the library. And the thought of an example app is not bad either. I'll get
> back to you on these in a private mail.
>
> > All in all, ownCloud seems like a very appealing solution, but it has
> some
> > scary wording/licensing for client developers. I also fully understand if
> > maybe 3rd-party apps are not part of the overall strategy, in which case
> > I'd like to know before (not) getting started.
>
> I will try to clarify the FAQ item and make clear it isn't about third
> party
> apps but about ownCloud Server apps. You, as 3rd party app developer, are
> very much important for us so if you have any suggestions, besides updating
> the FAQ item, on how to make things both easier and less scary, please let
> me
> know!
>
> Cheers,
> Jos Poortvliet
>
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Charles
> >
> > --
> > Charles Parnot
> > Your Lab Notebook, Reinvented.
> > http://findingsapp.com
>
> --
> Disclaimer:
> Everything I do and say is based on my view of the world today. I am not
> responsible for changes in the world, nor my view on it. Everything I say
> is
> meant in a positive and friendly way, unless explicitly stated otherwise.
> find me on blog.jospoortvliet.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 16:35:13 +0100
> From: Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet at gmail.com>
> To: devel at owncloud.org
> Subject: Re: [owncloud-devel] Using ownCloud APIs in iOS app
> Message-ID: <2102897.e2NdFcmIqC at jos-desktop>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Monday 02 November 2015 12:10:40 Charles Parnot wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Sorry for the newbie question. I posted it on the forum, but someone
> > recommended I posted it on this mailing list instead:
> > https://forum.owncloud.org/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=31273&p=100360#p100360
> >
> > My apologies if this is not the right place.
> >
> >
> > I'd like to add support for various sync services in our iOS app,
> including
> > Dropbox, Google Drive, etc. and maybe ownCloud (one user was interested).
> > ownCloud looks like a very nice implementation of file syncing that
> should
> > be useful in many situations where the user want to know where their data
> > is. However, I am trying to understand the licensing issues, and the FAQs
> > are a bit confusing in that regard, so my apologies for the dumb
> > questions.
> > The FAQs say:
> > > Can I write closed source or proprietary apps for ownCloud?
> > > Yes, but following the requirements of the under the AGPLv3, these can
> be
> > > distributed or made available to users outside of your household or
> > > organization only under the ownCloud Enterprise Edition, which supports
> > > integration with proprietary technologies. Contact ownCloud, Inc. for
> > > details.
> > Since the iOS app would only be using the APIs, and not any code from
> > ownCloud, I don't understand how the AGPL would apply (and the grammar is
> > a bit weird in the above sentence, adding to my confusion). I assume AGPL
> > does not apply for an iOS app using the APIs and you are talking about
> > other types of apps, but I am a bit confused (yes, I use this word a
> lot!)
> > and I want to make sure I don't get myself in trouble if I start doing
> > anything ownCloud-related.
> >
> > Also, I noticed the iOS library is MIT, but the iOS app is GPL. It's too
> > bad about the latter, because it probably contains a lot of code that
> > would be useful for people like me that want to add support for ownCloud
> > in an iOS app. Maybe there is code with another example app that could be
> > useful to have support added quickly for maintaining one folder in sync
> > with the local filesystem on iOS? To be fair, even Dropbox does not have
> > any code like this, but I was hoping for that one user that ownCloud
> > support could be added quickly... Sorry I am all whining and very
> > demanding
> >
> > All in all, ownCloud seems like a very appealing solution, but it has
> some
> > scary wording/licensing for client developers. I also fully understand if
> > maybe 3rd-party apps are not part of the overall strategy, in which case
> > I'd like to know before (not) getting started.
>
> I'd appreciate feedback:
> https://github.com/owncloud/owncloud.org/pull/774
>
> Sorry for the brainfart that is all the formatting changes, I couldn't help
> myself and only later realized I should have kept that in a separate
> commit.
>
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Charles
> >
> > --
> > Charles Parnot
> > Your Lab Notebook, Reinvented.
> > http://findingsapp.com
>
> --
> Disclaimer:
> Everything I do and say is based on my view of the world today. I am not
> responsible for changes in the world, nor my view on it. Everything I say
> is
> meant in a positive and friendly way, unless explicitly stated otherwise.
> find me on blog.jospoortvliet.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 13:31:39 +0300
> From: Tamer Tulimat <loveriver7 at gmail.com>
> To: devel at owncloud.org
> Subject: [owncloud-devel] How to get Owncloud contacts from diff
>         database?
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>
> I got mdaemon email server... and it saves contacts in its own
> database...sql...
> Is there away to make owncloud contacts gets its data from there (from
> externala database)?
> And plz if there is.. can you help out with steps... or a video about it or
> anything...
> like.. can i sync the table . oc_contacts_cards
> so it can get its data from diff database ?
> please help...
> Thanks alot.
>
> --
> ~*T*am
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 12:32:11 +0100
> From: Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet at gmail.com>
> To: List for Developers of ownCloud <devel at owncloud.org>
> Subject: [owncloud-devel] app developer documentation
> Message-ID: <723276717.XoSCZ99GQF at jospoortvliet>
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>
> Hi all,
>
> I noticed that our changelog for app developers wasn't updated for ownCloud
> 8.2:
> https://doc.owncloud.org/server/8.2/developer_manual/app/changelog.html
>
> Are there no (breaking) changes and features? I know there are ;-)
>
> If you know of any changes app devs should know, edit the page right away:
>
> https://github.com/owncloud/documentation/blob/stable8.2/developer_manual/app/changelog.rst
>
> Yes, this can be done from the comfort of your browser. And keep this in
> mind
> for 9.0! That can be edited here, btw.
>
> https://github.com/owncloud/documentation/blob/master/developer_manual/app/changelog.rst
>
> Please help get this up to date!
>
> Thanks,
> Jos
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 12:33:43 +0100
> From: Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet at gmail.com>
> To: devel at owncloud.org
> Cc: Tamer Tulimat <loveriver7 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [owncloud-devel] How to get Owncloud contacts from diff
>         database?
> Message-ID: <7162692.Y9b8iSYYPh at jospoortvliet>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Tuesday 03 November 2015 13:31:39 Tamer Tulimat wrote:
> > I got mdaemon email server... and it saves contacts in its own
> > database...sql...
> > Is there away to make owncloud contacts gets its data from there (from
> > externala database)?
> > And plz if there is.. can you help out with steps... or a video about it
> or
> > anything...
> > like.. can i sync the table . oc_contacts_cards
> > so it can get its data from diff database ?
> > please help...
> > Thanks alot.
>
> Hi Tamer,
>
> Please note that this is our development mailing list - any answers you get
> will most likely require coding. If you're up for that, all good, if not -
> ask
> on owncloud at owncloud.org please ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Jos
>
> --
> Disclaimer:
> Everything I do and say is based on my view of the world today. I am not
> responsible for changes in the world, nor my view on it. Everything I say
> is
> meant in a positive and friendly way, unless explicitly stated otherwise.
> find me on blog.jospoortvliet.com
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 12:34:20 +0100
> From: Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet at gmail.com>
> To: testpilots at owncloud.org
> Cc: Giancarlo Birello <giancarlo.birello at gmail.com>,
>         "packaging at owncloud.org" <packaging at owncloud.org>, Frank
> Karlitschek
>         <frank at owncloud.org>, J?rgen Weigert <jw at owncloud.com>, List for
>         Developers of ownCloud <devel at owncloud.org>
> Subject: Re: [owncloud-devel] [testpilots] owncloud-client Ubuntu
>         14.04   package corrupted
> Message-ID: <7820743.RpuKoszH3K at jospoortvliet>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Friday 30 October 2015 12:13:55 Giancarlo Birello wrote:
> > Sorry for cross mail,
> >
> > this morning the update of owncloud-client package make client not
> working.
> >
> > The size of update is different from last version (48 kB vs 2100kB).
> > The version is the same 2.0.2-1.
> > After update there is no bin owncloud in /usr/bin/.
>
> Yeah, this was fixed since then. Whoops ;-)
>
> > I hope this can help.
> > Best,
> > Giancarlo
> >
> > On 10/19/2015 02:03 PM, Frank Karlitschek wrote:
> > > Ahh. Good point :-)
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > Frank
> > >
> > >> On Oct 19, 2015, at 07:54, Juergen Weigert <jw at owncloud.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hey, typo alert!
> > >>
> > >> This is a working link:
> > >>
> > >> http://download.owncloud.org/community/testing/owncloud-8.2RC3.zip
> > >>
> > >> cheers, JW-
> > >>
> > >> Am 19.10.2015 um 13:46 schrieb Frank Karlitschek:
> > >>> Hi everyone,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> the ownCloud 8.2 RC3 release is done and ready.
> > >>>
> > >>> You find the download here:
> > >>> http://download.owncloud.org/community/testing/owncloud-8.3RC3.zip
> > >>> Please give it a very good test. The 8.2.0 final is planed for the
> next
> > >>> few days.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks a lot to everyone who contributed to this release and
> ownCloud in
> > >>> general. This is the work of an awesome community.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Let me know if you have any questions.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Frank
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> Packaging mailing list
> > >>> Packaging at owncloud.org
> > >>> http://mailman.owncloud.org/mailman/listinfo/packaging
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> testpilots mailing list
> > >> testpilots at owncloud.org
> > >> http://mailman.owncloud.org/mailman/listinfo/testpilots
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > testpilots mailing list
> > > testpilots at owncloud.org
> > > http://mailman.owncloud.org/mailman/listinfo/testpilots
> >
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