[owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

Upcast Network N.D nick.d at upcastnetwork.com
Thu Nov 12 22:28:29 GMT 2015


@jim
If i may be so rude to interfere in this matter.
As a long term user of the OC system it has come to my attention that this "feature" if you will is clearly something which is missing.
As in "it should've been there, but it is not" 
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http://upcastnetwork.com donderdag, 12 november 2015, 11:19PM +01:00 van  jimknopf at gmx.org :

>@Frank: Now I am offered version 8.1.4.2 on all channels except „nightly“.
>
>@all,
>
>so far, no one has answered my question, so I want to rephrase it: Why do you think that the admin can not be enabled to update via web interface as soon as the new version is available? I am the admin of my OC installation, and must decide when I can and want to update my installation. I do not understand why there is a delay for the web interface when the update is already released and publicly available. „Testing is everything“ can not be the answer. If you release a new version that is not beta or an RC, then the time for testing is over.
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>Then again I want to raise the problem of security - if you release a new version, usually it contains a lot of security fixes. Those are public knowledge as soon as the new sources and the release notes are on the server. This is all well and fine if I update as soon as possible, but your practice forces me over and over again to take to the console. Which I can handle, but then why did you bother to implement the update function in the web interface?
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>Besides, „a few days“ has now been „a few weeks“, and if you care to take a look into the OC forums, this issue is raised with almost every update. This is in no way clear or consistend from my point of view. 
>
>Regards
>Jim Knopf
>
>
>
>> Am 12.11.2015 um 22:58 schrieb Jan-Christoph Borchardt < jan at owncloud.com >:
>> 
>> In the updater app it says:
>> »Testing is everything: Therefore updates will be available here within a few days after the announcement.«
>> Can we be more clear there?
>> 
>> In addition I agree, the »few days« should be consistent.
>> 
>> 
>>  mark.ziegler at rakekniven.de – Thu., 12. November 2015 17:40
>>> Hello Frank,
>>> 
>>> the time from release to availability for integrated updater is  lacking communication.
>>> Time is different each release.
>>> 
>>> IMHO you should announce it on e.g. twitter, mailinglist and other channels.
>>> And there should be a default delay from release to auto updater e.g. 2 weeks.
>>> 
>>> There has been conversations in the forums as well regarding update strategy.
>>> 
>>> Is there an official statement somewhere about the delay?
>>> Would be helpful to answer questions like "why is my ownCloud not  offering latest release" with answers like "please look at your cloud  in about a week. Maybe update will be available at that time...".
>>> 
>>> Have a good time.
>>> ownCloud rocks!
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Zitat von Frank Karlitschek < frank at owncloud.com >:
>>> 
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > 3.1.4 should now be available in the updater. (After a few minutes  > of cache ttl cleanups)
>>> > Please let me know if something is not working.
>>> >
>>> > Frank
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Nov 12, 2015, at 13:19, Joas Schilling  >> < nickvergessen at owncloud.com > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Jim,
>>> >>
>>> >> notified the people in charge directly, hopefully it will get resolved soon.
>>> >>
>>> >> cheers joas
>>> >>
>>> >> Am 10.11.2015 um 19:30 schrieb jimknopf at gmx.org:
>>> >>> Hello everybody,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I would like to raise a question/a requirement regarding the  >>> update of OC via admin panel and propose to make updates here  >>> available as soon as they are published on owncloud.org.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The reasons: In v8.1.3 (the one I am using), I have four different  >>> types of update to choose from (produktion, stable, beta and  >>> nightly), but neither offers me an update to 8.1.4 or 8.2 (as of  >>> this writing).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I see no reason and indeed do not understand why I am forced to do  >>> a manual update. And I am forced to do this, because otherwise, my  >>> OC instance would be exposed to many security bugs that are  >>> publicly known as soon as a new release is available on the website.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Regards
>>> >>> Jim Knopf
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