[owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

tflidd tflidd at aspekte.net
Tue Nov 17 11:04:13 GMT 2015


automated upgrades to a new Ubuntu LTS version are pushed with the first 
point-release of a new version. This could be a good idea for owncloud 
as well. After a new major release, the updater app just waits for the 
first point release (8.2.1, for next major upgrade 9.0.1). Then the new 
version has already been installed on a larger number of hosts. Most 
updater-app users don't have full access to the system and possible 
problems are much harder to identify and to fix.

A testing mode of the updater app would be a very nice feature. This 
way, users who really need new features  or who just want to test the 
upgrade process, can run an upgrade to the 8.2.0-version. Or is there 
currently any way to test the updater app?


On 2015-11-17 10:10, jimknopf at gmx.org wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> sorry for the misunderstanding, I did not intend to affront you
> personally, but from your first response I gathered that you know
> about the details of classifying a release.
> @all: I would like to raise the question of what use a release channel
> setup has if a new version can be released that does not seem to be
> fit for any of the channels? The channels choosen look quite alright
> to me - I can decide if you want to be ahead of the pack or be more on
> the safe side. That is how I read the channels:
>  	* Production: very well debugged (if not bugfree, alas) and
> established release; at the moment, I would expect 8.1.4
>  	* Stable: well tested, but with major changes; 8.2 at the moment
>  	* Beta: Something like 8.2.1, also RC, for add-on devs for example
> or maintainers of large installations to prepare for upcoming changes
>  	* Nightly: well, just that, nightly build, just for core developers
> Also, I would like to remind everyone of the first line on the release
> notes page (https://owncloud.org/changelog/)
> _We recommend you follow our Release Channels [1] to always have the
> latest ownCloud Server version which fits your needs._
> So as an admin, I am urged to use release channels, but OC does not
> deliver what meet the expectations raised by itself.
> To me it looks like there is a gap between outward communication and
> perception and the inner thinking about delivering updates; and if I
> may add, it seems at least possible that there is no common
> understanding in the developer community, as well.
> Regards
> Jim
> GESENDET: Dienstag, 17. November 2015 um 06:16 Uhr
> VON: Chris <fisch.666 at gmx.de>
> AN: devel at owncloud.org
> BETREFF: Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface
> Hi,
> why is everyone thinking that if someone is answering somewhere that
> he is
> instantly speaking for the project.
> I'm not speaking for the project oC, i'm not related to ownCloud inc.
> at
> all, i'm not a developer and i'm also not releasing anything ;-)
> The post above was just my personal thinking about that.
>> So please explain, in which release channel does 8.2 belong exactly?
> In none i would say. It probably will hit "stable" as soon as it is
> "ready
> for home users at minimal risk". I don't see a problem here...
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