[owncloud-devel] Devel Digest, Vol 25, Issue 21

Juan Perez edniuz at gmail.com
Thu Jan 28 18:42:37 GMT 2016


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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. Re:  Information for users of Weuxels Gentoo owncloud-client
>      Repository (Klaas Freitag)
>   2. Re:  The longest SCALE report ever ;-) (interfaSys s?rl)
>   3.  set up environment for developing an app (muellismailbox at web.de)
>   4. Re:  set up environment for developing an app (Stephen Partington)
>   5. Re:  Information for users of Weuxels Gentoo    owncloud-client
>      Repository (Norman Rie?)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 16:34:27 +0100
> From: Klaas Freitag <freitag at owncloud.com>
> To: devel at owncloud.org
> Subject: Re: [owncloud-devel] Information for users of Weuxels Gentoo
>    owncloud-client Repository
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> On 26.01.2016 12:29, Norman Rie? wrote:
> Hi Norman,
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>> as i am migrating away from Owncloud i will no longer maintain my Gentoo
>> owncloud-client overlay (https://github.com/Weuxel/portage-owncloud-client).
> 
> I am sorry to hear that. Any reasons you want to discuss?
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> regards,
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> klaas
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>> Please use the owncloud-client ebuild in the portage tree.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 17:09:18 +0100
> From: interfaSys s?rl <info at interfasys.ch>
> To: devel at owncloud.org
> Subject: Re: [owncloud-devel] The longest SCALE report ever ;-)
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> Thanks for that entertaining report :)
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> Cheers,
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> Olivier
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> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 23:11:45 +0100
> From: muellismailbox at web.de
> To: devel at owncloud.org
> Subject: [owncloud-devel] set up environment for developing an app
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> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 18:01:55 -0700
> From: Stephen Partington <cryptworks at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [owncloud-devel] set up environment for developing an app
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> You can get into Vagrant and Virtualbox as a means to create VM's that will
> launch and that you can push content to. I know snappy works well like this
> and there is an owncloud snappy install as well. Lots of options there.
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> Mostly it depends on what you want to make, and how deep into the Os it
> will dig. If just high level testing a WAMP/XMPP style temp environment
> would work. VM's just help you keep things REALLY clean and seperated.
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>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 3:11 PM, <muellismailbox at web.de> wrote:
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>> Hello,
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>> i'm new at the owncloud project and i want to start of developing an own
>> app. First of all i need an suitable devolping environment. That means with
>> the ability to debug the app (php and javascript) and a IDE with sytax
>> higligthing, code completion and so on.  I'm familiar with the Eclipse
>> Platform. Therefore i made my first steps with Eclipse PDT. Can somebody
>> help me to set up a suitable environmet for developing owncloud apps?
>> Somebody who can give answers to the questions like: What's the best IDE.
>> How to set it up, especially how to connect the IDE and the webserver to
>> debug the app.
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>> thank you :)
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> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 07:55:59 +0100
> From: Norman Rie? <norman at smash-net.org>
> To: List for Developers of ownCloud <devel at owncloud.org>
> Subject: Re: [owncloud-devel] Information for users of Weuxels Gentoo
>    owncloud-client Repository
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> Hello Klaas,
> 
> the reasons have been discussed a lot so i do not really want to discuss them, but i can tell you.
> 
> Compared to other services i run, owncloud is high maintenance. Because of constant quality issues and not communicated changes, every update is a risky gamble. Despite the slogan ?Throw it on any webspace and it will work? it requires substantial changes in php and mysql config to run smoothly or at all. Again some of which are newer properly communicated. I do not want to run into an error on the stable release and then find out in the issue tracker, that i have to reconfigure the log format of my database. Owncloud should have told me that before or it should not be needed at all.
> 
> My core feature of owncloud was calendar and contacts which worked reliably for a long time. I can not recall when this started but it was deactivated after every update and at first it was a damn hassle to bring it back on.
> What made me search for alternatives was the broken calendar for android devices after moving to php7 and the announcement that owncloud was php7 ready. The devs said it was a sabredav problem and that the readiness was meant for the core. There was a fix on the issue tracker which made it work again. 
> What made me implement the previously searched for alternatives was the fact that after an update of owncloud that same known problem was shipped unfixed again.
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> I felt with every issue that was discussed, every time the devs statements moved along the lines of ?Not our problem?, ?This is not part of core (any more), so we don?t care?.
> This personal feeling of cause can and will probably be wrong. But it did its share to my decision that owncloud is not the tool of choice for me any more.
> 
> After my initial mail two people contacted me and asked, what i was migrating to as they want to move away from owncloud themselves. I find that somehow noteworthy.
> 
> Anyway, thank you for your work on the sync client. It came a long way from mirall and csync.
> 
> Regards,
> Norman
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>> Am 27.01.2016 um 16:34 schrieb Klaas Freitag <freitag at owncloud.com>:
>> 
>> On 26.01.2016 12:29, Norman Rie? wrote:
>> Hi Norman,
>> 
>>> as i am migrating away from Owncloud i will no longer maintain my Gentoo
>>> owncloud-client overlay (https://github.com/Weuxel/portage-owncloud-client).
>> 
>> I am sorry to hear that. Any reasons you want to discuss?
>> 
>> regards,
>> 
>> klaas
>> 
>>> 
>>> Please use the owncloud-client ebuild in the portage tree.
>> 
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